From: mfnxgzl2@yahoo.co.uk
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:01:45 +0100 (BST)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4089332.stm
Saudi Arabia's interior minister has dismissed growing pressure to allow women to drive.
Prince Nayef bin Abdul-Aziz said the Muslim country had other priorities.
The kingdom imposes severe restrictions on women, including barring them from voting or going out in public unaccompanied by a male relative.
Prince Nayef said he was surprised when a member of the consultative Shura council proposed last month that the driving ban be lifted.
Mohammad al-Zulfa called for a gradual lifting of the ban, which the council declined to discuss.
"Does he understand what the priorities are?" Prince Nayef asked, in comments to the official Saudi Press Agency.
"Saudi Arabia's interior minister has dismissed growing pressure to allow women to drive.
Prince Nayef bin Abdul-Aziz said the Muslim country had other priorities.
The kingdom imposes severe restrictions on women, including barring them from voting or going out in public unaccompanied by a male relative.
Prince Nayef said he was surprised when a member of the consultative Shura council proposed last month that the driving ban be lifted.
Mohammad al-Zulfa called for a gradual lifting of the ban, which the council declined to discuss.
"Does he understand what the priorities are?" Prince Nayef asked, in comments to the official Saudi Press Agency.
"We consider [the question] to be secondary, not a priority.
"These matters are decided according to the general good and what is dictated by women's honour, but I urge everybody to put a stop to this and not make an issue out of it that pits one group against another," he said.
Conservatives argue that if women were allowed to drive, they would be able to mix freely with men.
We consider [the question] to be secondary, not a priority.
"These matters are decided according to the general good and what is dictated by women's honour, but I urge everybody to put a stop to this and not make an issue out of it that pits one group against another," he said.
Conservatives argue that if women were allowed to drive, they would be able to mix freely with men.
hatoon
Dear Najla
In Lyon I'm updating my Thesis on 'Women and Power in Ancient Arabia: Nabataea" which is to be published this year under 'Women In Pre-Islamic Arabia'.
That's it Najla, u are assuming too much :)
salam
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From: Najla
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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Mideast-Man] Turkey
Salam Hatoon,
I wonder if you tell us what your research sabbatical in France is related to ??
- would it possibly be on political enfrachisment of women in the Gulf...???
Look forward to your response - and good luck in Istanbul,
Salam
Najla
hatoon alfassi
Dear Friends,
There is a high possibility that I'll be in Turkey, Istanbul between 19-22 Juin. for a conference on EMPOWERING WOMEN IN PUBLIC LIFE IN THE BROADER MIDDLE EAST AND NORTH AFRICA. So my Turkish colleagues, any idea of who is, or will be, in Istanbul at the time.
If things went well, I'll be in Dedeman Hotel with my baby :) in sha Allah.
I'll be contactable on my Saudi Mob for sms.: +966504520388
Salam,
Hatoon
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Prince Nayef bin Abdul-Aziz said the Muslim country had other priorities.
The kingdom imposes severe restrictions on women, including barring them from voting or going out in public unaccompanied by a male relative.
Prince Nayef said he was surprised when a member of the consultative Shura council proposed last month that the driving ban be lifted.
Mohammad al-Zulfa called for a gradual lifting of the ban, which the council declined to discuss.
"Does he understand what the priorities are?" Prince Nayef asked, in comments to the official Saudi Press Agency.
"Saudi Arabia's interior minister has dismissed growing pressure to allow women to drive.
Prince Nayef bin Abdul-Aziz said the Muslim country had other priorities.
The kingdom imposes severe restrictions on women, including barring them from voting or going out in public unaccompanied by a male relative.
Prince Nayef said he was surprised when a member of the consultative Shura council proposed last month that the driving ban be lifted.
Mohammad al-Zulfa called for a gradual lifting of the ban, which the council declined to discuss.
"Does he understand what the priorities are?" Prince Nayef asked, in comments to the official Saudi Press Agency.
"We consider [the question] to be secondary, not a priority.
"These matters are decided according to the general good and what is dictated by women's honour, but I urge everybody to put a stop to this and not make an issue out of it that pits one group against another," he said.
Conservatives argue that if women were allowed to drive, they would be able to mix freely with men.
We consider [the question] to be secondary, not a priority.
"These matters are decided according to the general good and what is dictated by women's honour, but I urge everybody to put a stop to this and not make an issue out of it that pits one group against another," he said.
Conservatives argue that if women were allowed to drive, they would be able to mix freely with men.
hatoon <hatoon_alfassi@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear Najla
In Lyon I'm updating my Thesis on 'Women and Power in Ancient Arabia: Nabataea" which is to be published this year under 'Women In Pre-Islamic Arabia'.
That's it Najla, u are assuming too much :)
salam
----- Original Message -----
From: Najla
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Mideast-Man] Turkey
Salam Hatoon,
I wonder if you tell us what your research sabbatical in France is related to ??
- would it possibly be on political enfrachisment of women in the Gulf...???
Look forward to your response - and good luck in Istanbul,
Salam
Najla
hatoon alfassi <Hatoon-alfassi@columnist.com> wrote:
Dear Friends,
There is a high possibility that I'll be in Turkey, Istanbul between 19-22 Juin. for a conference on EMPOWERING WOMEN IN PUBLIC LIFE IN THE BROADER MIDDLE EAST AND
NORTH AFRICA. So my Turkish colleagues, any idea of who is, or will be, in Istanbul at the time.
If things went well, I'll be in Dedeman Hotel with my baby :) in sha Allah.
I'll be contactable on my Saudi Mob for sms.: +966504520388
Salam,
Hatoon
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Re: : [Mideast-Man] Driving ban on women stays in Saudi
From: madawi.al-rasheed@kcl.ac.uk
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:45:26 +0100
>Dear hatoon
On al-hurra tonight (sa'a hura, I will be on TV,
discussing the status of women with Masuma
al-Mubarak and others).
In the Arabic version of Nayef's statement, he
said women are sa ource of happiness and comfort.
Women in advanced nations are selling their
honour.
I wonder what the price was on Magdalene
Allbright's legs during the Jeddah Economic
Forum? I am sure you were amused by the sight of
her sitting in the front line. If the highest
authority in the country uses this language then
what do you expect from others?
Unfortunate for women, their cause has become a
political rather than a humanitarian issue. This
is why we have the delay.
What did you think of the article in al-quds?
Sorry got to go now, give me a call when you are
in Lyon. Let's exchange telephone numbers.
Madawi
>never mindMideast-Man@yahoogroups.comhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4089332.stm wrote:NajlaMideast-Man@yahoogroups.comHatoon-alfassi@columnist.com>http://www.mail.com/?sr=signupMideast-Man-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>This debate has been returning to the front
>pages recently. Many have commented and argued
>and even mocked of the whole story. Dr Madawi al
>Rashid was one of them who wrote a very strong
>article about it.see attachments (all in arabic)
>
>It's so ridiculus to think about it but is OUR reality.
>
>Hatoon
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From:
>To:
>Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:01 AM
>Subject: [Mideast-Man] Driving ban on women stays in Saudi
>
>
>
>Saudi Arabia's interior minister has dismissed
>growing pressure to allow women to drive.
>
>Prince Nayef bin Abdul-Aziz said the Muslim country had other priorities.
>
>The kingdom imposes severe restrictions on
>women, including barring them from voting or
>going out in public unaccompanied by a male
>relative.
>
>Prince Nayef said he was surprised when a member
>of the consultative Shura council proposed last
>month that the driving ban be lifted.
>
>Mohammad al-Zulfa called for a gradual lifting
>of the ban, which the council declined to
>discuss.
>
>"Does he understand what the priorities are?"
>Prince Nayef asked, in comments to the official
>Saudi Press Agency.
>
>"Saudi Arabia's interior minister has dismissed
>growing pressure to allow women to drive.
>
>Prince Nayef bin Abdul-Aziz said the Muslim country had other priorities.
>
>The kingdom imposes severe restrictions on
>women, including barring them from voting or
>going out in public unaccompanied by a male
>relative.
>
>Prince Nayef said he was surprised when a member
>of the consultative Shura council proposed last
>month that the driving ban be lifted.
>
>Mohammad al-Zulfa called for a gradual lifting
>of the ban, which the council declined to
>discuss.
>
>"Does he understand what the priorities are?"
>Prince Nayef asked, in comments to the official
>Saudi Press Agency.
>
>"We consider [the question] to be secondary, not a priority.
>
>"These matters are decided according to the
>general good and what is dictated by women's
>honour, but I urge everybody to put a stop to
>this and not make an issue out of it that pits
>one group against another," he said.
>
>Conservatives argue that if women were allowed
>to drive, they would be able to mix freely with
>men.
>We consider [the question] to be secondary, not a priority.
>
>"These matters are decided according to the
>general good and what is dictated by women's
>honour, but I urge everybody to put a stop to
>this and not make an issue out of it that pits
>one group against another," he said.
>
>Conservatives argue that if women were allowed
>to drive, they would be able to mix freely with
>men.
>
>
>hatoon
>
> Dear Najla
>
>In Lyon I'm updating my Thesis on 'Women and
>Power in Ancient Arabia: Nabataea" which is to
>be published this year under 'Women In
>Pre-Islamic Arabia'.
>
>That's it Najla, u are assuming too much :)
>
>salam
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From:
>To:
>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:36 PM
>Subject: Re: [Mideast-Man] Turkey
>
>Salam Hatoon,
>
>I wonder if you tell us what your research
>sabbatical in France is related to ??
>- would it possibly be on political enfrachisment of women in the Gulf...???
>Look forward to your response - and good luck in Istanbul,
>
>
>Salam
>
>Najla
>
>hatoon alfassi
><
>wrote:
>
>Dear Friends,
>
>There is a high possibility that I'll be in
>Turkey, Istanbul between 19-22 Juin. for a
>conference on EMPOWERING WOMEN IN PUBLIC LIFE IN
>THE BROADER MIDDLE EAST AND NORTH AFRICA. So my
>Turkish colleagues, any idea of who is, or will
>be, in Istanbul at the time.
>
>If things went well, I'll be in Dedeman Hotel with my baby :) in sha Allah.
>
>I'll be contactable on my Saudi Mob for sms.: +966504520388
>
>Salam,
>
>Hatoon
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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status of women with Masuma al-Mubarak and others).
ource of happiness and comfort. Women in advanced nations are selling
their honour.
the Jeddah Economic Forum? I am sure you were amused by the sight of
her sitting in the front line. If the highest authority in the country
uses this language then what do you expect from others?
than a humanitarian issue. This is why we have the delay.
exchange telephone numbers.