: [Mideast-Man] Driving ban on women stays in Saudi

From: Array
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 12:35:27 +0300
Re: : [Mideast-Man] Driving ban on women stays in Saudi
Dear Madawi,

Unfortunately, I'll not be able to see the programme. I'm already in Lyon and can only watch the french channels. But good luck you and Ma3sumah.

It is an unfortuante announcement.

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From: Madawi Al-Rasheed
To: Mideast-Man@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: : [Mideast-Man] Driving ban on women stays in Saudi

Dear hatoon

On al-hurra tonight (sa'a hura, I will be on TV, discussing the status of women with Masuma al-Mubarak and others).

In the Arabic version of Nayef's statement, he said women are sa ource of happiness and comfort. Women in advanced nations are selling their honour.

I wonder what the price was on Magdalene Allbright's legs during the Jeddah Economic Forum? I am sure you were amused by the sight of her sitting in the front line. If the highest authority in the country uses this language then what do you expect from others?
Unfortunate for women, their cause has become a political rather than a humanitarian issue. This is why we have the delay.

What did you think of the article in al-quds?
Sorry got to go now, give me a call when you are in Lyon. Let's exchange telephone numbers.
Madawi

This debate has been returning to the front pages recently. Many have commented and argued and even mocked of the whole story. Dr Madawi al Rashid was one of them who wrote a very strong article about it.see attachments (all in arabic)

It's so ridiculus to think about it but is OUR reality.

Hatoon

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From: never mind
To: Mideast-Man@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:01 AM
Subject: [Mideast-Man] Driving ban on women stays in Saudi

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4089332.stm

Saudi Arabia's interior minister has dismissed growing pressure to allow women to drive.

Prince Nayef bin Abdul-Aziz said the Muslim country had other priorities.

The kingdom imposes severe restrictions on women, including barring them from voting or going out in public unaccompanied by a male relative.

Prince Nayef said he was surprised when a member of the consultative Shura council proposed last month that the driving ban be lifted.

Mohammad al-Zulfa called for a gradual lifting of the ban, which the council declined to discuss.

"Does he understand what the priorities are?" Prince Nayef asked, in comments to the official Saudi Press Agency.

"Saudi Arabia's interior minister has dismissed growing pressure to allow women to drive.

Prince Nayef bin Abdul-Aziz said the Muslim country had other priorities.

The kingdom imposes severe restrictions on women, including barring them from voting or going out in public unaccompanied by a male relative.

Prince Nayef said he was surprised when a member of the consultative Shura council proposed last month that the driving ban be lifted.

Mohammad al-Zulfa called for a gradual lifting of the ban, which the council declined to discuss.

"Does he understand what the priorities are?" Prince Nayef asked, in comments to the official Saudi Press Agency.

"We consider [the question] to be secondary, not a priority.

"These matters are decided according to the general good and what is dictated by women's honour, but I urge everybody to put a stop to this and not make an issue out of it that pits one group against another," he said.

Conservatives argue that if women were allowed to drive, they would be able to mix freely with men.
We consider [the question] to be secondary, not a priority.

"These matters are decided according to the general good and what is dictated by women's honour, but I urge everybody to put a stop to this and not make an issue out of it that pits one group against another," he said.

Conservatives argue that if women were allowed to drive, they would be able to mix freely with men.

hatoon wrote:

Dear Najla

In Lyon I'm updating my Thesis on 'Women and Power in Ancient Arabia: Nabataea" which is to be published this year under 'Women In Pre-Islamic Arabia'.

That's it Najla, u are assuming too much :)

salam

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From: Najla
To: Mideast-Man@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Mideast-Man] Turkey

Salam Hatoon,

I wonder if you tell us what your research sabbatical in France is related to ??
- would it possibly be on political enfrachisment of women in the Gulf...???
Look forward to your response - and good luck in Istanbul,

Salam

Najla

hatoon alfassi wrote:

Dear Friends,

There is a high possibility that I'll be in Turkey, Istanbul between 19-22 Juin. for a conference on EMPOWERING WOMEN IN PUBLIC LIFE IN THE BROADER MIDDLE EAST AND NORTH AFRICA. So my Turkish colleagues, any idea of who is, or will be, in Istanbul at the time.

If things went well, I'll be in Dedeman Hotel with my baby :) in sha Allah.

I'll be contactable on my Saudi Mob for sms.: +966504520388

Salam,

Hatoon

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Dear hatoon

 

 

This debate has
been returning to the front pages recently. Many have commented and argued
and even mocked of the whole story. Dr Madawi al Rashid was one of them who
wrote a very strong article about it.see attachments (all in
arabic)

 

It's so ridiculus
to think about it but is OUR  reality.

 

Hatoon

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mind

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Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:01 AM

Subject: [Mideast-Man] Driving ban on women stays in
Saudi

href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4089332.stm">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4089332.stm

 

Saudi Arabia's interior minister has dismissed growing
pressure to allow women to drive.

Prince Nayef bin Abdul-Aziz said the Muslim country had other
priorities.

The kingdom imposes severe restrictions on women, including
barring them from voting or going out in public unaccompanied by a male
relative.

Prince Nayef said he was surprised when a member of the
consultative Shura council proposed last month that the driving ban be
lifted.

Mohammad al-Zulfa called for a gradual lifting of the ban,
which the council declined to discuss.

"Does he understand what the priorities are?" Prince Nayef
asked, in comments to the official Saudi Press Agency.

"Saudi Arabia's interior minister has dismissed growing
pressure to allow women to drive.

Prince Nayef bin Abdul-Aziz said the Muslim country had other
priorities.

The kingdom imposes severe restrictions on women, including
barring them from voting or going out in public unaccompanied by a male
relative.

Prince Nayef said he was surprised when a member of the
consultative Shura council proposed last month that the driving ban be
lifted.

Mohammad al-Zulfa called for a gradual lifting of the ban,
which the council declined to discuss.

"Does he understand what the priorities are?" Prince Nayef
asked, in comments to the official Saudi Press Agency.

"We consider [the question] to be secondary, not a
priority.

"These matters are decided according to the general good and
what is dictated by women's honour, but I urge everybody to put a stop to
this and not make an issue out of it that pits one group against another,"
he said.

Conservatives argue that if women were allowed to drive, they
would be able to mix freely with men.
We consider [the question] to be
secondary, not a priority.

"These matters are decided according to the general good and
what is dictated by women's honour, but I urge everybody to put a stop to
this and not make an issue out of it that pits one group against another,"
he said.

Conservatives argue that if women were allowed to drive, they
would be able to mix freely with men.


hatoon
<hatoon_alfassi@hotmail.com> wrote:

 Dear
Najla

In Lyon I'm updating my Thesis on
'Women and Power in Ancient Arabia: Nabataea" which is to be published
this year under 'Women In Pre-Islamic Arabia'.

 

That's it Najla, u are assuming too
much :)

 

salam

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From: href="mailto:najla10@yahoo.com">Najla

To: href="mailto:Mideast-Man@yahoogroups.com">Mideast-Man@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:36 PM

Subject: Re: [Mideast-Man] Turkey

Salam Hatoon,

 

I wonder if you tell us what your research sabbatical in
France is related to ??

- would it possibly be on political enfrachisment of
women in the Gulf...???

Look forward to your response - and good luck in
Istanbul,

 

 

Salam

 

Najla

hatoon alfassi < href="mailto:Hatoon-alfassi@columnist.com">Hatoon-alfassi@columnist.com>
wrote:

Dear Friends,

There is a high possibility that I'll be in Turkey,
Istanbul between 19-22 Juin. for a conference on
EMPOWERING WOMEN IN PUBLIC LIFE IN THE BROADER MIDDLE EAST AND NORTH
AFRICA. So my Turkish colleagues, any idea of who is, or
will be, in Istanbul at the time.  

If things went well, I'll be in Dedeman
Hotel with my baby :) in sha Allah.

I'll be contactable on my Saudi Mob for
sms.: +966504520388

Salam,

Hatoon

 

 

 

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