RE: [SaharaSafaris] desert..........oh

From: sosman@soficom.com.egDate: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 16:52:56 +0200
Tab why dont u share with us the lesson you learn last hard jan...
as this will teach us not to rely on new technology more than our own
instict
(akeed ya maged mafeesh kheiry who can ask this similar Q..:))) )
-----Original Message-----
From: Shaadi Elswaifi [mailto:shaadi@vt.edu]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:47 PM
To: Sahara Safaris
Subject: Re: [SaharaSafaris] desert..........oh

Hello Maged and everybody,
There is an online overview about the GPS. There is a section there about
error sources also. The site is
http://www.colorado.edu/geography/gcraft/notes/gps/gps_f.html
Regarding your recent findings in Sinai Maged, didn't we have an exchange
waypoint agreement between us?

By the way, a note for all interested GPS users. GPS is a wonderful
device, it makes you feel as if you are playing video games and the desert
is your whole screen/field, however never rely on a GPS as your soul source
of navigation in a safari. Even if you have a ton of extra batteries with
you. Maged and I learnt that lesson the hard way last January :)

And thank you Khalid for checking my web site. It hasn't been updated for
a while. I'll work on it soon. Monirs pictures are great and I'd very much
like for all of us to share pictures related to the Sahara and safaris. So
I'll try and post some more of mine also.

Salam,
Shaadi

Maged Toson wrote:

Saba7 el khier ya mabrouk (it seems i`m the only one who calls you
mabrouk) every body calls you mohamed (at first i didnt know who is this
mohamed that shaadi is talking to????)

:)

well about the maps you sent ,i was woundering if you have some more,
you know that maps are a very good way to bribe me and take what ever i
have...........:)

by the way about removing the (SA) selective availability, i can tell
you that now i can get as good as 4m acuracy on my GPS. i was in need of
that when i was taking a hike for three days in the Sinai mountains some two
month ago, i was hiking in a place called wadi el shag.......and for your
info ya mabrouk i have the coordinates of some vegitation there (BANGO)
.....i`m not joking ,i say it with my oun eyes.

i do have a quetion though ...concerning the interferance that could
affect the GPS`s signal. do you guys have any info about that , maybe a
communication engineer on the list could answer this for us ( sallam
masalan )

CU

TooSoon

>From: Mohamed Mabrouk
>To: Sahara Safaris
>Subject: Re: [SaharaSafaris] Re: GPS for navigation...
>Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 18:00:47 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Dear All Safarists,
>
> > Would you please explain to us more about GPS?
>
>It's as big as a mobile phone. You leave it in your
>car near the sky (so antennas can communicate with
>satellites) and it will draw the red line you see in
>the attached map of Sinai's wadi Kid.
>
>It actually can show you this map on its small screen.
>Lost? turn back on your heels and drive while you
>watch its screen carefully and you'll be able to get
>almost EXACTLY on the same line you got on even in a
>desert storm or by night.
>
>Impressed? well, it can actually record the point you
>first kissed your fiance on a sand dune to the extent
>that if you buried something in the middle of no
>where, your grandsons can come and pick it up if you
>saved what we call 'waypoint' from your GPS and left
>it for later generations to find this time-capsule
>only using their GPSs! :)
>
>So how this wonderous thing work? it work through a
>'constellation' of satellites that is there are so
>many of it that they cover all earth at the same time
>by at least 4 at every part. Your GPS must find at
>least 4 in the sky before they agree to show you your
>position on the map.
>
>Then when you start to move it draws the line you're
>leaving behind you. Took an interesting photo? record
>that waypoint and then come check on any decent map
>what your camera has been capturing.
>
>The image you're seeing attached here is a trip that's
>part of my many trips to the Sinai's St Kathrin's
>Protectorate. I am trying to see where vegetation are
>in the area and draw a map for it (if I can) for my
>Masters degree under the title of Environmental
>Management in Nottingham university.
>
>The point recorded as LUSH9 is a remarkably vegetated
>area you feel with the majestic colors of the rocky
>mountains and the thinly aromatic breeze of the area
>in addition to those shrubs that you're in a heavenly
>garden that's all yours! :)
>
>Wondering about more of GPS? well, me Maged or Shaadi
>could show you one next trip.
>
>I see you're working in MobiNil. I know that Peter
>Iskandar of the Geomarketing has few ones, if you
>can't wait to see one. :)) Just don't forget to send
>him my regards.
>
>Salaam,
>Mohamed Mabrouk
>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----
From: Shaadi Elswaifi
[mailto:shaadi@vt.edu]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:47
PM
To: Sahara Safaris
Subject: Re: [SaharaSafaris]
desert..........oh

Hello Maged and everybody,

There is an online overview about the GPS. There is a section there about
error sources also. The site is href="http://www.colorado.edu/geography/gcraft/notes/gps/gps_f.html">http://www.colorado.edu/geography/gcraft/notes/gps/gps_f.html

Regarding your recent findings in Sinai Maged, didn't we have an exchange
waypoint agreement between us?

By the way, a note for all interested GPS users. GPS is a wonderful device,
it makes you feel as if you are playing video games and the desert is your
whole screen/field, however never rely on a GPS as your soul source of
navigation in a safari. Even if you have a ton of extra batteries with you.
Maged and I learnt that lesson the hard way last January :)

And thank you Khalid for checking my web site. It hasn't been updated for a
while. I'll work on it soon. Monirs pictures are great and I'd very much like
for all of us to share pictures related to the Sahara and safaris. So I'll try
and post some more of mine also.

Salam,
Shaadi

Maged Toson wrote:

 
 

 Saba7 el khier ya mabrouk (it seems i`m the only one who calls you
mabrouk) every body calls you mohamed (at first i didnt know who is this
mohamed that shaadi is talking to????)

:)

well about the maps you sent ,i was woundering if you have some more, you
know that maps are a very good way to bribe me and take what ever i
have...........:)

by the way about removing the (SA) selective availability, i can tell you
that now i can get as good as 4m acuracy on my GPS. i was in need of that
when i was taking a hike for three days in the Sinai mountains some two
month ago, i was hiking in a place called wadi el shag.......and for your
info ya mabrouk i have the coordinates of some vegitation there (BANGO)
.....i`m not joking ,i say it with my oun eyes.

i do have a quetion though ...concerning the interferance that could
affect the GPS`s signal. do you guys have any info about that , maybe a
communication engineer on the list could answer this for us ( sallam masalan
)

CU

TooSoon
 
 
 
 
 

>From: Mohamed Mabrouk 
>To: Sahara
Safaris 
>Subject: Re:
[SaharaSafaris] Re: GPS for navigation...
>Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001
18:00:47 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Dear All Safarists,
>
>
> Would you please explain to us more about GPS?
>
>It's as
big as a mobile phone. You leave it in your
>car near the sky (so
antennas can communicate with
>satellites) and it will draw the red
line you see in
>the attached map of Sinai's wadi Kid.
>

>It actually can show you this map on its small screen.
>Lost?
turn back on your heels and drive while you
>watch its screen
carefully and you'll be able to get
>almost EXACTLY on the same line
you got on even in a
>desert storm or by night.
>

>Impressed? well, it can actually record the point you
>first
kissed your fiance on a sand dune to the extent
>that if you buried
something in the middle of no
>where, your grandsons can come and
pick it up if you
>saved what we call 'waypoint' from your GPS and
left
>it for later generations to find this time-capsule
>only
using their GPSs! :)
>
>So how this wonderous thing work? it
work through a
>'constellation' of satellites that is there are so

>many of it that they cover all earth at the same time
>by at
least 4 at every part. Your GPS must find at
>least 4 in the sky
before they agree to show you your
>position on the map.
>

>Then when you start to move it draws the line you're
>leaving
behind you. Took an interesting photo? record
>that waypoint and then
come check on any decent map
>what your camera has been capturing.

>
>The image you're seeing attached here is a trip that's

>part of my many trips to the Sinai's St Kathrin's

>Protectorate. I am trying to see where vegetation are
>in the
area and draw a map for it (if I can) for my
>Masters degree under
the title of Environmental
>Management in Nottingham university.

>
>The point recorded as LUSH9 is a remarkably vegetated

>area you feel with the majestic colors of the rocky

>mountains and the thinly aromatic breeze of the area
>in
addition to those shrubs that you're in a heavenly
>garden that's all
yours! :)
>
>Wondering about more of GPS? well, me Maged or
Shaadi
>could show you one next trip.
>
>I see you're
working in MobiNil. I know that Peter
>Iskandar of the Geomarketing
has few ones, if you
>can't wait to see one. :)) Just don't forget to
send
>him my regards.
>
>Salaam,
>Mohamed
Mabrouk
>
>=====
>--------------------
>I might
sound like a crazy dreamer but.. only crazy dreamers can come up with ideas
like the Egyptian pyramids!
>

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